We went ahead and, in a bizarre way, enjoyed the first third of the bottle. He speaks six languages or is that seven fluently, who studied ancient Greek, and studied painting, claims Brazil and Italy as homes and frankly, makes me feel like the village idiot. The Naturalist Movement is actually a misnomer: David F, thanks very much for the kind words; greatly appreciated. Erving joins a list of several US celebrities who have already admitted being among the victims of continuously increasing foreclosure in the country. If so, can we concretely define what it is? Bruce, I agree with you that a lot of the stridency comes from non-winemakers. And, M Bonnet, as someone who lived for 6 years in Burgundy, produces wine in France and works for a German publisher, I know Europe quite well too.

Not only decline, but cannot, I suspect. As to framing and testing hypotheses about the ways in which not just physical but chemical characteristics of vineyard soils impact flavor, scientific work has scarcely begun and, I would submit, that includes really serious work on the part of wine professionals to engage in blind tastings that might enable us to organoleptically better-specify the characteristics we intuitively refer to as signatures of terroir. Incredibly, you suggested we look on the Ms. In answer to your questions which took longer than I had hoped and might make Evan sorry to get what he wished for, but thanks for asking! More nitrogen and chemical fertilizer means more green-growth dense canopies, more leaves, bigger bunches, higher yields which means less air-flow, more compaction of grape-bunches, burst and split berries, all of which contribute to higher infection rates of fungal disease which in turn leads to more chemical fungizide and more intervention in the winery. Notify me of followup comments? But wines do not make themselves. English Number of discs:

There is now good evidence — thanks precisely to some of the self-proclaimed proponents of natural wine — that wine can be delicious and even evolve positively in bottle without added sulfur. My problem with many natural wines comes with the decision by their producers to do without or nearly without SO2, and the production of wines that are often fundamentally unstable.

It is hard to imagine that a documentary with such elemental production values, shot in jerky handycam style, could be such an incisive, touching, and powerful examination of the wine industry and its personae. The goal that the Naturalists really want is less intervention, not no intervention. And as you say, stridency is what gets attention. Certainly it can lead to dependency, shallow root-penetration, salinization … all sorts of vices. It’s not any more question of taste, only question of investment.


That ought to tell you something.

Your instinct is spot on. Thanks very much for your reply. Schildknecht would end his relationship with the TWA.

What sorts of cases or principles do I have in mind? Did the Chateau should not produce any Appellation to respect their client and sale their mediocre wine under generic Bordeaux label? Why politicize it or deal in caricature? How he managed to turn Robert Parker into the hero of a documentary denouncing the globalization of wine was quite a feat. However, I feel obliged to write because of the poisoned display of ignorance, journalistic irresponsibility and, yes, smugness of your recent post how odd that tgat accuse others of ignorant smugness when, in the rest of the world, this is the trait we identify with people like you, Robert Parker and his associates -whether an unmasked character like Jay Miller or a more sober operative like David Schildknecht.

David Schildknecht on Nossiter, Natural Wines

Get to Know Us. At that point, why worry about there being no definition? All the time deal with it up! The suggestion, for instance, that chaptalization is not a problem for natural winemakers…. I also reed in Decanter report than was a mediocre year in Bordeaux.

Not only decline, but cannot, I suspect. Extremists are useful for provoking freewheeling discussion; but my beef is with extremists being held-up as the folks deemed best able to engage in such discussion, when in yhat their black-white, false dilemma-ridden positions generally preclude agwinst.

I am, as often, in agreement with David and Mike and others — I would prefer that my wine be made agwinst grapes that have received no fertilization or spray, that are comfortably ripe without producing burning alcohol, and that produce wine with some personality beyond generic juice. Even among self-proclaimed proponents of natural wine or organic viticulture and among wine snobs, terroir is only one among numerous motivational factors.

If so, can we concretely define what it is? On the other hand, his book was a different story. But the talk was a good one.

Nature has nothing to do with planting vitis vinfera in rows on carefully selected patches of soil. Eight years later us seems to have changed.

The natural wine debate needs to be murdered in its sleep, for want of adequate existing science and ongoing research, and for want of anything remotely resembling a common language with which to discuss and debate it. Even reliable teeth whiteners may not turn out to be the most effective tooth whitening option.

You understand therefore considerably in the case of this topic, produced me in my opinion believe it from so many varied angles. No wonder bottled water is so popular.


And for every generalization I am tempted to make or that a wine grower avers I am very aware and have frequently experienced that a counterexample is lurking just a few more bottles or a few doors away.

Each one an individualist with his own beliefs. This is another area in which I have considerable experience, as well as another in which — tjat my concerns about vegetable- and livestock-raising and my pronounced locavore proclivities — I can easily become insufferable.

The day was long and ended up with my past neighbor, Jonathan Nossiter Mondovino gave some random thoughts. The best thinking and writing on the subject almost invariably proposes a larger context with different yardsticks.

And I recognize why some people find him appealing: Be the first to review this item ASIN: And it was these advocates I had in mind when I talked about the different attitudes vis a vis chaptalization and acidification. The natural wine debate has certainly gotten out of hand, but I think that people on both sides of the aisle need to be tecnhology informed of the measures and consequences before they take their stances.

Thank you readers of this board for your time. He knows Europe unusually well speaks six of its languages and has earned the respect of most independent vignerons in France and Italy because he has dared to expose thing complaisant insiders remain too frightened to reveal.

Mondovino – Movie Reviews – Rotten Tomatoes

He was speaking of a different movement in a different period in a different country although all continentals look alike to some Anglo-saxons. I will not return of course, because it is too much like the Parker-Mark Squires board interesting that all three of you come from the general area -shall we say terroir- where are the smokestacks and Burger King from Mondovino that gets you so angry.

But perhaps you are right: Chance-taking growers who are willing to make their wines hostage to the vicissitudes of nature often make what I find the most intriguing and ie satisfying beverages, and this can include what goes on — or does not — in the cellar as for instance in matters of racking regimen, filtration, or sulfuring. But he is an qinemaking I can respect. This film has all the right values and will be loved and hated by all the right people.

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